If you’ve ever thought ‘I’d love to write a book’ but then immediately felt overwhelmed by the thought of HOW to actually do that…well this episode is for you! Author of ‘Infinite Entrepreneur’, Ally Archer, takes us through how she created her digital nomad life and published her own book!
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Dani:
Hi my loves. Welcome back to the podcast. Today we have special guest Allie Archer with us. Allie is a marketing agency owner and full-time digital nomad who has written her own book, infinite Entrepreneur. We’ve talked about eBooks on the show in the past, and now we will be diving into the world of self-publishing. Welcome to the show, Allie.
Ally:
Hi. Thank you so much for having me. I’m so happy to be here.
Ally’s Journey Into Entrepreneurship
Dani:
We’re so happy to have you. Can you please start off by sharing how you got started with your digital nomad and entrepreneurship journey?
Ally:
Yeah, so it was actually about six and a half years ago at this point, which is so wild to think that I’ve been doing this for that long and I had always loved to travel. I studied abroad summer after my sophomore year of college in Florence, Italy. It was my first time going overseas.
Dani:
I studied in Milan.
Ally:
Oh, you did?
Dani:
Yeah, my first experience going abroad too.
Ally:
Oh, amazing. Yeah. That’s so crazy. Yeah, and I feel like you can probably relate to just having everything just be such an eye-opening experience. Yes.
Dani:
Yeah.
Ally:
And just that like positive culture shock of like, wow, how have I not traveled before and I just need to keep traveling. Yes.
Dani:
When the travel bug hit and it clearly never went away for either of us
Ally:
A hundred percent. Yeah. So I loved my experience studying abroad. I kind of thought it would be like this big trip I would do and then maybe over the years after I graduated college I would get a nine to five job. I studied marketing pr, so maybe I’d work like at a PR agency or something and I, every couple years maybe I would do a trip or maybe one day I’d go back to Europe when I was like 35 or something. And so I didn’t think too much about it until right before I graduated college and I just knew I needed to travel more and I realized that I don’t know if it was the best fit to get a nine to five job right away. Yeah. And so then I ended up finding this travel job where I was working in Florence, Italy for this travel company where I would take, I was a tour guide with a bunch of like 10 other people and we would take students around to other countries every weekend.
Ally:
So much fun. It was such a unique experience. Good for like being 22 years old, like there was a lot of partying and it was just a lot of like fast-paced 24 7 work and travel and it was, it was a lot of fun and it really opened me up to the idea of living in an alternative lifestyle. And I’d also worked some conferences in international education. So I was meeting students from all over the world. And so I just had this long list of countries that kept going and going, going on my list that I needed to go to. I’m like, well now I have to go to the Philippines. Now I have to go to India, now I have to go to all these other places that they’re, you know, the list is just so long. And so I ended up, after that job in Italy moving back to the states, I got a job working in higher education at like an eight to five office style career.
Ally:
And I really liked the job at first and then I still enjoyed the job, but I started getting burnt out and just that travel bug was just growing and growing and growing and growing. And I realized, I’m like, I’ve done this alternative work and travel lifestyle in the past. Well why don’t I continue doing that and just figure out this whole digital nomad thing because that was becoming more popular on social media. People were talking about, you know, working from their laptop from anywhere in the world. And I’m like, I feel like I can do that, or at least I wanna try. Yeah. So when I quit my job, I had the opportunity to move out to San Diego, California with my roommate at the time. And I was like, I’m just gonna get myself five months. I’m just gonna see, figure it out.
Ally:
I don’t know, I’m gonna do it but I’m just gonna figure it out. And I had been travel blogging for a couple years at that time, but my income from that was like really sporadic. Yeah. And I wasn’t getting consistent income from that, so I didn’t really know how to make money like enough from that blog, but which I still blog today, go seek explore. But I ended up getting a referral for a someone who needed marketing for a freelancer and, and I was like, oh, I’ve never heard of the term freelancing before, which is so wild. And so then I ended up, she needed me to do social media, email marketing design stuff that I already had experience with from that, from my blog. And I just realized, oh these skills from my blog and all my travel experiences, like all everything that I’ve done, I have all these soft skills and transferable skills within marketing that can be applied to other businesses.
Ally:
Right. So then she ended up referring me to some other clients when I first moved to San Diego and I was like, oh, I can actually make a full-time income from freelancing and I can still do blogging and work on growing that as well and I can travel, I can do all my favorite things at once and support myself completely independently. So I ended up continuing to do that and the first year was pretty rocky cuz I was, I had no strategy, I didn’t know what I was doing, I just kind of just jumped into things. And over time it’s just grown into what it is and I’m still freelancing today, still doing my blog. I have my book coming out that we were just talking about before we hit record and yeah, I’m still being a digital nomad.
Adopting The Mindset Of a Full Time Traveler
Dani:
I love that. And it’s so incredible and I feel like all the digital nomads that I talk to, they don’t necessarily always know how it’s gonna work out this nomadic lifestyle, but they’re so sure that that’s exactly what they want. The travel bug bit them, it’s not going away. And they’re like, how do I make it happen? Right. And you have the unwavering faith that you can also design this life for yourself. There’s no going back to corporate. And I think it’s just so magical hearing how it plays out for different people because there are many ways, right? And like you said, you didn’t even know what freelancing was, but when that term popped up and you’re like, this is exactly what I need to get to full-time travel, it just appeared and you hopped on that opportunity and you capitalized on it and now you have so many amazing different income streams blooming from that original word that you had no idea what it meant.
Dani:
Ally:
A hundred percent. And like a phrase I use a lot is follow your inner compass, like your intuition and there’s like you just have to the the, it’s so cheesy to say but you know, take the leap of faith and then the net will appear. And I kind of add onto that. Even if the net doesn’t appear, you can figure out how to swim. If travel and being a digital nomad is a priority for you, if it’s a non-negotiable, this is like, this is what you wanna do. Yeah. You will make it happen. You just have to kind of navigate the strategy pieces, stick to an income stream that works for you and build that up and just trust in yourself, trust that if this is what you want, that you’re meant to do it
Dani:
For sure. And you meet so many other people who help you on that path who like you learn different things from and you’re like, Hey, I could maybe like do that or I could work with them or I could make this like my own thing. So just be really open and receptive and know that like you only know so much and that has gotten you to where you are right now. And if you wanna be somewhere else, then just be really open to learning from other people. Be comfortable with not knowing everything. Right. And taking in what could get you to your ideal dream life.
Ally:
A hundred percent. Yeah. And I feel like the more you travel as a nomad, you meet other nomads like you were saying, and not only do you get the the inspiration, but there’s all these connections too cuz we’re all those the same like, like-minded style of people where this is a priority for us. We want to have this work and travel lifestyle, make travel a huge part of our lives. Something that we’re constantly doing or doing quite often a lot more than than we could average. Yeah. Like my old job, I only had 10 days of vacation per year and so say I know it’s just very common in the United States to have very little or even no vacation time. So yeah, connecting with like-minded people I think is so important.
Ally:
It’s so helpful. And I think anyone, if you know, if you’re not traveling yet, if you wanna become a digital nomad, just listen to podcasts. Like your podcast is so much invaluable information about becoming digital man, creating this lifestyle for yourself and also just reading books and following blogs and just kind of saturating your mind with the possibility of people that are already doing it. Because that’s super motivating, at least to me. Yeah. When I was getting started was like listening to podcasts, reading books, and then actually going out and traveling as a nomad meeting other people because it’s just so motivating to normalize it and just know that it’s possible and that if other people are doing it that you can do it too.
Dani:
Yeah. And it’s very humanizing the more you listen, you’re like, okay, I’m not like that different from any of them in the beginning you’re like, oh they had this, they had that. Maybe they come from a special family. Right? But then over time you’re like, no, they’re actually just like people I went to high school with. They’re like people I grew up with. There’s literally nothing that different And if you kind of just shift your mindset into Oh my God, I can do it too, then the path will appear
Ally:
A hundred percent.
What Inspired You To Write Your Own Book?
Dani:
So it sounds like you tapped into freelance and then you kind of like designed your own personal brand around that. What inspired you to now write your own book?
Ally:
So I w like I said, I was freelancing and then I was also simultaneously growing my travel blog and talking really in the niche part of my blog was creating what I call a work and travel lifestyle. Balancing work and travel or having having ways to fund your travel. Mainly it started from my, that job I had in Italy, I got so many questions about that. And then when I started working online as a freelancer, I got a ton of questions about that other people saying, Hey, I wanna do what you do. Even to this day I’ve been doing this for so long, I’ll meet people in person or you know, through these online channels that ask questions about like how do I make this happen? Because there’s so much information out there, like now there’s a lot more information about all the different ways that you can make money online.
Ally:
And it’s really easy to get shiny object syndrome on. Like you, you get one Instagram ad about starting an Amazon store and then you get another Amazon or another ad about you know, doing an Etsy shop and then it’s like, I made a hundred thousand or a hundred thousand dollars in five minutes. And it’s like, oh cool. And then it’s hard because you’re pulling yourself in these different directions. So then I was like, okay, well I have a lot of experience with freelancing and I think this is something a lot of people can do because you take your transferable skills, you already have do it online. If you can do it from anywhere then you can make this your lifestyle. And so I feel like that kind of unique blend of just, not just doing an online business but doing it while traveling based on the skills that you have was something a little bit more unique.
Ally:
And it was something, like I said, I got so many questions about, I just kept answering like, how can I like help people, like answer people’s questions and help people do this too? And so then with my Instagram, my blog, all my content, I just continued to create content around that. And over time I realized, because I love to write as well, like actual, you know, writing blog posts and emails and I just was writing, I think I was writing an email newsletter one day. I just kept writing and writing and writing and I was like, okay, this could be a book. And so then I literally started, I was like, okay, I think I can actually turn this into a step-by-step process. Wow. And so that’s how my, I started the process of writing, I started creating a book proposal, I joined a writer group and I was like, okay, I think I’m actually going to make this like a legit book.
Steps To Self Publishing A Book
Dani:
Yeah, I love that. What exactly is self-publishing? How do you, like in the beginning when you started writing, how did you know who to send the proposals to? Like how did those initial steps look?
Ally:
Yeah, so when I was writing this book Infinite Entrepreneur, I have actually written another book called The Adventure Club, which is about working abroad these different travel jobs or working online where I interviewed 20 different people from all over the world and it’s on Amazon and I self-published that in 2017. And I am proud of like the content, but I just kind of like, it was one of those projects where I gave myself three weeks to write it. I put up a pre-order page, I said, if anyone pre-orders it, I’ll just finish it. And I dunno how I did that in three weeks. Like that is literally insane. I don’t, this took me two years to write the book I’m writing now and I, I was, I was kind of just using it as like a promotional tool for my block.
Ally:
I didn’t put really much effort into the design interior formatting of it. So the designs I need to actually do a second edition and like get it properly designed now that I have the resources to do that. So for a long time I was like, oh I don’t wanna self-publish because it’s like I’m very creative and techy. I’ve built my entire blog by myself. I, I do a bunch of stuff for my clients but I’m like, the actual book stuff is like, there’s a lot if you just do it yourself. Like I honestly like definitely hire people to do it. But I was like, oh I, I would just rather get a traditional publisher cuz I was like, I just want them to take care of all these pieces for me. And so that’s when I joined our writer’s group and I entered a book publishing contest and you had to send in a book proposal and then if you win the contest you would get a book deal with that publishing house.
Ally:
I didn’t win, I was an honor audible mentions like a runner up. I was like first on the list of the people that didn’t get the book down. Oh so close. Close. And I got some really great feedback from the editors at the publishing house. So I’m really grateful for that experience because it really motivated me to like get moving on things because it’s so easy for a book. It’s such a huge project and it’s such a passion project until you release it. It’s so easy to have it be on the back burner and like take breaks it or start it and not finish it. So that was really like motivating to get my book proposal done cause it helped me clarify my idea. Yeah. A good book that I’d recommend as a side note, anyone, it’s called the Book You Were Born to Write by Kelly Na Torres.
Ally:
Ooh amazing book. Especially if you wanna write a non-fiction book. Whether that is related to like a how-to, like mine’s about how to start an online business or maybe if it’s related to like a memoir or something, a super, super helpful book on a book about writing a book. So that was super helpful for me to kind of get the motivation and the momentum going to really get the clarity on the book topic, the marketing plan and all that stuff sorted out with the book proposal. So even though I didn’t win that contest and I was so close, I think it was probably, I was like I know that I’ll look back, this is happening for me, not to me. It’ll be a blessing in disguise. And so I tried to like reach out to some agents from book agents because you need to get a book agent to get a traditional book deal.
Ally:
But then I was talking to them and I had some agents that were interested but then it was a very long journey where they say once we get a book deal it’s going to take on average nine to 18 months until the book is published. I’m thinking, I’ve been working on this book for a long time, like I’m doing the math, I’m like 20, 24, 20 25 And I’m like, I feel like this message needs to get out to people. Like I’m so ready. And I was doing a ton of traveling last year and working on my book and I ended up finishing the manuscript and I’m thinking once this is edited and designed, it’s it’s ready. Like I don’t need, I don’t, or I didn’t want to wait nine to 18 months.
Ally:
I’m just impatient. Maybe that’s not a good thing. But I’m like, I’m so impatient because after this I know I’m gonna have another like five books I probably will wanna write. So I just wanted to get it out there. So then I decided, you know what, I’m just gonna set a date June 1st, 2023, that’s gonna be the published date and I’m going to self-publish. And anything that a traditional publisher would do, which is having an editor, the interior format designer, the book cover design and the marketing pr, which they would only support some of the marketing pr, you still need a platform. We could talk about that in a second if you want. But that I’ll just do it myself and I’ll hire freelancers for these pieces.
Dani:
Hmm. Yeah. So you’re like building your own team.
Ally (18m 12s):
Exactly. Because I learned from when I self-published the Adventure Club, which I’m very proud of the content, it’s great content but the format I need to update the interior format for that to make it a little bit more polished looking. It’s just so challenging. I learned so much that I’m like it, it means a lot to hire the right people. Yeah. To design Facebook. There’s having those resources and you can find like freelancers from anywhere online and it doesn’t need, I don’t need to work with a publishing house to get a designer and an editor and an editor. So once I found the freelancers and hired them to support those pieces, I was like okay, I’m good.
Ally:
Cuz I, I felt, I felt like the content was writing the manuscript was good. I really believed in that whole process cuz I said I did a lot of work previously. Reading, reading and being in that writer’s group was really helpful to like get the format of the manuscript down and then I was like, well now we just need to get these final pieces done
How To Distribute A Self Published Book
Dani:
Amazing. Yeah. So in two weeks your book will be launched. Congratulations. I would love to hear about the whole platform piece in terms of getting your team everything is there, like how are you distributing?
Ally:
So I am using a distributor called Ingram Spark and it’s pretty popular in this self-publishing world. There’s a few different distributors that are out there and what you do is you, once you get, so like this is why I’m so happy that I hired interior formatter designers, editors and everything. Once you, my interior format person and designer created an EUB file which is for eBooks. So that can be, that’s like when you’re on a Kindle or an e-rate or you can tap the table of contents and it clicks.
Dani:
Yeah I use that on my Mac or like my iPad with the books app. Oh perfect. They’re all eub files and then it just pops open.
Ally:
I know. Yeah. So Adventure Club is like a word document. You know, so it’s like, it should be like an actual like UB file. So you need to update, upload your epub file for e-book, need to upload a P D F version for the print copy and you need to have all the trim sizes which basically means like the size of the paper. Yeah. And then you need to have your cover align with the trim sizes so that the design with the spine when it wraps around on print like looks okay there’s, you need to buy something called an i sbn, which is like a code that every book has and you need one for ebook and for print. So with Ingram Spark right now it’s only $85 per i SB N but you could also buy it other places online.
Ally:
But that allows you to distribute the book from anywhere. So if you publish only through Amazon K D P, which is what I did with the Adventure Club and what a lot of people do when they self-publish, then you, your Amazon is sb, I think it’s called an as i n is like exclusive to Amazon. They won’t let you distribute it anywhere else. So for me, by doing Ingram Spark can have my own I SB n I’m able to distribute, like say if I wanted to contact a local bookstore and sell them a certain amount of copies, they can order it through Ingham Spark. And then since I own the I SB N, I’m not like, like rely on Amazon, they can buy copies of my book and sell it in their bookstore. Oh
Dani:
Yeah. That’s how it works. You’re trying to wrap my head around something that you know, you grow up with but all the logistics behind the scenes, like how do you actually get that from author onto the shelves? That’s so cool.
Ally:
Yeah and that allows me, so I’m on Barnes Noble online and Amazon and Booktopia, which is Australia, new Zealand’s, burns Noble. And so doing that, if anyone is listening that wants to self-publish, I would highly recommend doing the Ingram Spark or something similar to that versus only Amazon because you don’t wanna be tied to only Amazon, you allows you to distribute wide to all these other like bookstore and online retailers.
Dani:
And was this all in the book that you read?
Ally:
I’m, I’m trying to think cuz at that point I’ve read that book a couple years ago. I do think she talked a little bit about that. A lot of the book from what I remembered because back then I was really focused on getting a traditional publisher. Yeah. Because all these logistics, I was like, that sounds too complicated. I feel like I do remember her talking about self-publishing. But I think what was really helpful for that book was getting the layout in your book organized so that it’s reads like an actual book and the message helps people. But she did talk about in that book and what a lot of people talk about when you have a book, whether it’s traditionally published or self-published, is your author platform, which basically means your online presence and your online following email subscribers, blog readers, social media followers, whatever you have so that you can actually sell the book.
Ally:
Especially for non-fiction, it’s very important that you have following and that you’re doing active promotions for the book. Because even if you are traditionally published, like that makes such a big difference. Yeah. To getting a book out there and getting it in other people’s hands or else people won’t know about it. So for
Dani:
Sure. Yeah, we just did an episode on e-books and selling e-books and it’s interesting how like you always hear about best selling books but not like best written books. Right? Like the sales part is so important because writing it is almost like only half of the equation and the marketing strategy, the sales strategy of continued sales beyond just the launch date or the promo period, it’s really important to have in place
Ally:
For sure. And I think anyone that’s in a creative field or in art or writing or music or whatever, I think the biggest, most rewarding feeling is having other people like read the book or see the work or listen to the music and and having other people on the receiving end find value from that. And I think that is rewarding as a creator. And so it’s like when you are going to be writing a book, selling a book, or just doing anything in the creative field, having that audience is important. And I know sometimes it might feel annoying to be like self-promotional or it’s exhausting having to post social media every day, but it’s so worth it and, and I think it’s, it’s so valuable to have that because when you are ready to get that book out or whatever you’re creating, you have people on the receiving end that are going to find value from it, which is the whole purpose of why you did it in the first place.
Dani:
Yeah, definitely. And then the other thing I’m taking away is it’s better to just do it and figure it out yourself. Like this isn’t your first book and the Adventure Club, it’s like a totally different topic, kind of like related, but like you got that out, you learned from it and you’re making this bigger and better than your first launch and you have like a whole team. So done is better than perfect. There are so many different logistics, but you can figure it out and you can just get there so you can start impacting people asap.
Ally:
A hundred percent. And I love the phrase done. Done is better than perfect. That’s exactly how I try to do everything. That’s how I did the first book, which again like that was meant to just be an ebook and then it’s print is available too in case people don’t have an ere. But, but this book, Infinite Entrepreneur is, I feel like the quality of it is so well done because there are so many resources that you can have even if you’re self-published. Like I said, if you, if you find an editor, if you find an interior designer, if you do good cover design and if you actually structure and write the book in a way that is professional, like my book I’ve, I’ve given advanced copies out and I’ve gotten people saying like, wow, this is literally, this is so well done, so well written.
Ally:
And the actual format is like, it seems like something I would just pick off the shelf at Barnes and Noble. And I was like, and that means so much to me because it it’s like it’s a lot of work. Yeah, it’s a lot. But if you’re really passionate about getting the message out there and if you’re passionate about helping people with with it, it’s it that work will be worth it. And right now already having people read the book or having pre-orders come in cuz it comes out June 1st is really rewarding and really exciting because it’s like, there’s been times where I’m like, oh my God, this is so draining. Just trying to do the interior design. I swear it’s so important, it’s so important.
Ally:
But there’s so many revisions and rounds of edits back and forth, back and forth and I was like, oh my God, I’m so sick of this. Yeah. But then now that it’s done I’m like wow, this feels so good. It was
Dani:
All worth it. I would do it again.
Ally:
Yes. I’ll take a break and I’ll do it again.
Dani:
Yes. Give me a few months.
What Is ‘Infinite Entrepreneur’ About?
Dani:
I would love to hear about your new book Infinite Entrepreneur. Can you share with the audience what it’s about?
Ally:
Yeah, absolutely. So Infinite Entrepreneur, the subtitle is How to break Free from Monotony and Launch a Digital Limitless Work from Anywhere Business. So what it does is it takes everyone step by step on starting and growing an online freelance business based on the transferable skills that they already have. So just like I did with my blog, I had those transferable skills that related to marketing and social media. How can you take whatever you have that you with your talent skills or hobbies or what can you learn that you’re passionate about that you can offer online as an online income stream? And then from there, expanding that out into other either passive income streams, growing a personal brand. And and what I love about the book is that it’s 10 chapters long and every chapter starts with a narrative travel story.
Ally:
That is a true story from my experience traveling. And that story is directly related to all the business steps in the book. Ooh. So yeah. And so I think for me, I’ve read so many business books over the years and I love them. They’re very helpful, they’re very strategic, but I feel like they’re boring a lot of the time now it all depends. And I wanted to make a book like what’s the book that would’ve helped me when I was getting started? So I wasn’t a hot mess my first year, so I actually had a strong foundation to transition out of a nine to five into a digital nomad lifestyle. And it’s not only the strategy and the mindset that is so key, but also the inspiring travel stories.
Ally:
Like when I read about travel or watch YouTube videos about traveling, that motivates me to travel. And having that coupled with the travel, like the strategic steps because it is a lot of work as I’m sure you know and your people in your audience know is it’s a lot of work to start a business and actually switch into the entrepreneurial mindset and and to show up and be disciplined when the motivation fades away and actually go toward your path every single day when it’s hard and it’s challenging, you’re doing something you’ve never done before. So if your motivation is to become a digital nomad or a work from anywhere business owner, then having, in my opinion those travel stories is going to be a lot more motivating because it just keeps that inspiration up and just reminds people their why of like why they’re starting this online business and that once they get past that un discomfort of getting outside their comfort zone, then it’s like, okay, the reward is there, the lifestyle is there, it’s going to be worth it and it’s gonna be super fun in the process.
Dani:
Yeah, for sure. And having those travel stories, I’ve read like many non-fiction books, the stories that stick out to me are always travel related. I’m like, I remember once Paris was in Argentina, but like the rest of the book, I’m not so sure. So they’re definitely the ones that help you envision the life that you want for yourself and then seeing how it plays out step by step I think is so important. Instead of just being like, Hey, now I’m here. Right. But like how did you get there? And I love that you walk people through how they can get there with relatable travel stories where they could see themselves going through the same exact experience.
Ally:
Totally. And I also talk about like problems that I went through, issues that I had. So like cuz I’m, I did not just snap my fingers and become a digital nomad, I guess I kind of did with my first client technically, but like it took time to grow my business and there were things I had to learn along the way. I dealt with a lot of imposter syndrome at the start. I was not charging, not setting up my services in the right way. I was like charging random hourly rates versus like monthly flat rates. I was getting shiny object syndrome, like I was all over the place. And it’s like me talking about my experiences and what I went through I think is helpful for a lot of people that see, you know, that go on social media and they’re like, oh, this person was an overnight success.
Ally:
Like no, nobody was. It did take all that time and effort, that trial and error, but if you can learn from someone who’s done it, then it’s like those are the shortcuts that you can take to avoid some of these problems that other people
Dani:
Definitely like learning from your mistakes, which I think is also just so cool about books written by really inspirational people. You get to really just tap into their experiences, right? And see how they got there and like learn for yourself, okay, this is what they went through and that’s what I don’t wanna do. And so let me learn from their mistakes so I don’t have to go through that. I think it’s just such a great shortcut, like if you want this lifestyle for yourself, obviously there are so many resources, but this is a step-by-step resource with really inspirational travel stories. So if anyone is interested, Ali, where can we find your book?
Ally:
So you can go to infiniteentrepreneur.co, that’s the website for the book. And then I have all the links to Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Booktopia and International Amazons as well on there. You can pre-order it now and if you pre-order prior to June 1st, so I don’t know when this is coming out, maybe it’ll be after.
Dani:
No, it’ll be before.
Ally:
Okay, perfect. So prior to June 1st, you can get pre-order bonuses, just email me a screenshot of your confirmation and I will send you a bunch of cool pre-order bonuses and yeah, June 1st is when it comes out, which is super exciting. So yeah, infinite Entrepreneur Co. And my blog goes to Explorer and my Instagram Ali Archer, like I have links all okay on connected to me. So if you find me anywhere, you’ll find the book.
Dani:
Okay. I will link all of that in the episode description. Well, congratulations. I know this is no easy fee and I’m just so excited to continue reading the copy. It’s so good.
Ally:
Yes. Thank you so much, I appreciate that.
Dani:
If anyone wants to reach out to Allie, I will link everything in episode description. Perfect.
Ally:
Thank you so much. It’s been so great chatting with you.
Dani:
Thank you so much for coming on the show.
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